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	<title>Trevor Morgan &#187; databases</title>
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		<title>objects and sets</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, getting somewhere with TurboGears, although I&#8217;ve been banging my head a little against SQLObject.  While it&#8217;s indubitably a nice tool if you&#8217;re looking for an object persistence mechanism, it can get a bit frustrating if you actually want to treat your relational database like a relational database.  There seem to be a lot of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, getting somewhere with TurboGears, although I&#8217;ve been banging my head a little against SQLObject.  While it&#8217;s indubitably a nice tool if you&#8217;re looking for an object persistence mechanism, it can get a bit frustrating if you actually want to treat your relational database like a relational database.  There seem to be a lot of tools available that promise to shield you from dealing with SQL, but generally speaking I don&#8217;t want to be shielded.  The strength of the relational model is not that you can rapidly access a big list of data elements, but that you can slice, join and view this data in a huge variety of ways.</p>
<p>Specifically I&#8217;ve been trying to implement a many-to-many relation where the intermediate table has attributes, and then do a join across this table filtered by these attributes.  Trivial in SQL, and frustratingly difficult in SQLObject.  In fact I&#8217;ve shelved it for now while I concentrate on other issues.</p>
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